Episode 20 - My Friends Tip Too Much

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just that you don't know how to use social courtesy. That's old fashioned.

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Speaker 1: Watch. How is he?

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Speaker 2: Post and damn Posts act

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Speaker 1: as host and hostess.

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Speaker 1: They know that courtesy

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Speaker 2: means showing respect, thinking of the other person. Really. Friendliness.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the 20th. Yes, the 20th episode of Awesome Etiquette for all 20 episodes. We have been proud to be part of the infinite guest network from American Public Media. I'm Dan Post setting

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Speaker 1: and I'm Lizzie Post from the Emily Post Institute.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Lizzie Post.

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Speaker 1: I know it's like we haven't seen each other all week.

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Speaker 2: It's been about a week.

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Speaker 1: This is normally you and I are the two that are in the office like the most,

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking about this. The genesis of this podcast was the conversations that you and I would have in the mornings, as we both got into the office were oftentimes the first or the only ones there, for whatever reasons, and we would sit around and chat, and we said, you know, this is the heart of the Emily Post. It would be nice to share this with people, so

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Speaker 1: It would be

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Speaker 2: very honest version of that.

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Speaker 1: This is a very honest version of that. I s O Dan and I have each each been traveling. I was in Omaha, Nebraska, last week with the oh Maha Symphony Guild. They was they they have the symphony is a non profit, and they host a debutante ball as a way to do fundraising.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like fun.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool. And so this is the 50th anniversary of them doing this and they invited. Yeah, it was a really big deal, and they invited me to come out for kind of the kick off of their season, which starts now and then. The dead ball is actually in December

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Speaker 1: and just give a speech and and kind of find out what they're about. And I have to be honest. This might have been my most favorite trip ever. It's I've had a lot of amazing trips, and that's saying a lot because my trips to New Orleans air pretty amazing, too, I believe, because we've seen a little bit of

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Speaker 2: feedback come through, come through it on request forms, and

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Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, when you go out to do these events, you're never sure who you're going to be meeting when you go out. And I think people are never quite sure what we're going to be like. You know, not everybody listens to the podcast. Not everybody knows Dan and I love to joke around or that were very down to earth, and it's really a wonderful thing when you show up there and they turn out to be so genuine and amazing and and it's a really tough thing when you when you show up and people actually are kind of expecting the snobby side of etiquette because that's not who you are, it's not what you want to represent, but you also don't want to be disappointing people who have hired you to come and speak and be a part of their organization. So you really do wanna be what people are looking for from you, but you also want to be yourself and I

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Speaker 1: I'm trying really hard not to tear up. I know it's I'm such a sap, but

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Speaker 1: I have never I just I I felt so incredibly welcomed and appreciated for exactly who I was on exactly what I brought to the table and each event there was, ah, patrons cocktail party the night before. And then there was sort of Moses and memories event in the morning. And then there was the luncheon that I was going to speak at, and then there was gonna be a dinner afterwards for some of the people who actually put it, put it on and had done all the hard background work and myself, and

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Speaker 1: each event just kept getting better and better. And the more I got to know these women, I didn't wanna leave. Oh, Maha, like I didn't wanna leave Omaha. I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting. I'm so I have not gotten the update yet. I'm so glad to hear it went well because I also this organization had scheduled this event over a year in advance. So this has been, um, event that's been on your calendar. It's been on the radar, and I knew that you were thinking a lot about it because it was planned so far ahead because it sort of loomed large. Attn. One point. It seemed so far away. It was like it was never going to arrive,

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Speaker 1: and then it was here and it just it truly, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's such a testament thio True believers and people who really understand the etiquette is all about putting people at ease and making them feel comfortable and embracing them exactly as they are. And I had never felt more embraced, and I truly, genuinely felt connected to these people that I met. And I can't wait to. I have potential to go back next year, um, for a different organization there. But someone who had seen me at this and and also I want to go back to visit to spend time with them because I like them. These air people I would be friends with,

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Speaker 2: um as I'm flying homeless, I'm having similar thoughts. I'm going to see Lucy. What should we be talking about? That sort of micro version of the same thought I was in Chicago on sort of more, more traditional business for US business etiquette seminar. But I spent a few days in Chicago, and this fall I spent a couple days in Columbus and a couple of days in ST Louis, and I'm starting to love my visits to the Midwest. I'm starting to look forward to that

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Speaker 1: right where it's kind of this amazing place. People are not in

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Speaker 2: a hurry to get through their interaction with you. You're with somebody and you're really with somebody and it's It's a remarkable quality and I don't want to generalize. I don't wanna ascribed attributes don't wanna toe stereotype. But I'm getting to a point where I really enjoy my visits to the Midwest. And I even anticipate that the quality of the human interaction that I think I'm likely to encounter even in a big city like Chicago, you can feel you can feel the influence of that regional culture. Even in the downtown.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, I loved flying into Omaha. I'm someone who loves wide open spaces. So even though I live, you know, in the mountains, basically, I mean, I live in in the valley, but the mountains are all around us, and and don't get me wrong. I love that view. Um, the the time e mean you know my stories of being on the ranch, the Chico Basin and and riding, you know, a full clip pond just feeling amazing because you can see everything for miles and miles to come. And I love that feeling I love that openness, and I feel like it's such a great metaphor for how the people are out there is that they're incredibly open and receptive to whatever is going to come their way. And even if it's something they don't like, they still are able to welcome it in and not that I was experiencing this, but I got the sense that if they were ever dealt something difficult, these women that I met, that they would just kind of take it with which exact thank you. So you found the words I was looking for handle it with the same grace and poise that I was experiencing from them in an environment where they were really excited about what they were doing. It was it was truly inspirational. So to the women who put on and work so hard on all of the Omaha symphonies, debutante ball events, um, you are truly, truly friends of mine. And I am so very, very happy to count you among my friends.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad to hear the trip went well.

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Speaker 1: It was It was. Were you traveling last week?

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Speaker 2: Yes, but personally, I was,

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about it for a second. No, the pain. Don't talk about it. Talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I was at the A F C championship game. I

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Speaker 1: was so jealous.

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Speaker 2: Gillette. Second row. And it was. It was so much fun. Azi. Everyone who listen to the show knows it was. It was a real opportunity for me to go see the team that I've enjoyed watching for 15 years now.

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Speaker 1: But don't talk about the pain because I have a really great etiquette salute later in the show.

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Speaker 2: I love it, but first, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to your questions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mhm.

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Speaker 1: Sure we arrived.

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Speaker 1: There's so much to learn how to do. Sure, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: to learn, but it's worth it.

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Speaker 2: And learning is easy. One way is by watching others

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Speaker 2: on every episode of awesome etiquette. We take your questions on how to behave. Let's get started.

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Speaker 2: This question begins high with an exclamation point. How quickly are you required to respond to a text? I was chastised by my best friend and my daughter for slow response is a times maybe a few hours. If I'm at work in meetings or at home doing laundry for example on my phone is not next to me. Thanks for the guidance. Kathy.

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Speaker 1: Kathy were totally in your camp. Texting is not a guaranteed method of getting ahold of someone for exactly the reasons you ST you might be in a meeting or you're doing laundry in your phone is in a different room. So if someone really wants to get a hold of you, I suggest they call your house phone or they call your phone so that you can hopefully hear it ringing. And even that's not a guarantee. When you reach out to someone on their cell phone, What if their phone was on? Do not disturb. What if their phone was on vibrate and they're not in the same room, is it?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more just because you purchased a cell phone that, as SMS capabilities does not mean you're on call to the world.

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Speaker 1: Know exactly. And I think that if people really need an answer from you, they should try to find other ways of getting in touch

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Speaker 2: with you. One thought I would add to it is you wanna observe expectations that grow within a relationship. So certain people, when they're operating in a certain communication medium will start to have a certain expectation of each other with emails, maybe about 24 hours, that you're going to get back to somebody who you do business with regularly and they're aware of that. And you're aware of that. Maybe with texting, you've developed a relationship with a friend where there is an expectation of some rapidity of exchange. Between the text of a text is more than 30 minutes old. Maybe it becomes old. You're no longer addressing it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really important to establish those expectations. If your daughter has those expectations with other people and she's trying to apply those expectations to you consider, you know, I don't always have my phone with me. I'm not gonna be on call to it all the time. I just want to be really clear with you about that, and you might not need to be as forcefully direct as I just was. But you want to communicate that message to avoid any confusion,

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Speaker 1: and it really is perfectly OK whether it's your daughter or your best friend to communicate that good luck and we will not text you. We promise

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Speaker 1: Dear Lizzie and Daniel. I like it when they call you Daniel E. I grew up with You is Danny and now it's Dan and now it's Daniel. All right, First off, thank you for such a beneficial program. I truly enjoying gained so much from each of your podcast. My question has to do with peer influence around tipping. I'm a working college student on a tight budget who enjoys going out sometimes for meals or drinks with friends.

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Speaker 1: A continuous issue has seemed to occur when the bill comes and tips are decided. Currently, with my income range, I'm comfortable giving a 10 to 15% tip based on service 10% obviously extremely poor service, whereas my friends will generally give announced and expect others to give up to a 40% tip. I think that's ridiculous. I have been called out and told to give a bigger 25% tip for what I deemed to be a mediocre service. It makes me extremely embarrassed and also mad because I feel that tipping is a private individual matter. Should I just suck it up and dig into my funds to give bigger tips, or do you believe my tipping method is justified. Thank you for your advice. Best

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Speaker 2: broke broke. I'm going to start off by saying I sympathize. I definitely spent many years as a starving artist and operated on a very small budget. And I appreciate that the type of situation that you're finding yourself in And,

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Speaker 2: um I wanna I want to address a couple different things that come up in your in your email. The first is that a 40% tip is really That is a very generous tip. The range that we often talk about here is a 15 to 20% range. So that 40% tip is really almost double what we recommend and and represents, Um, a gesture of extreme generosity and appreciation, generosity and appreciate.

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Speaker 1: And we just just in case your friends are listening extreme, I

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Speaker 2: often talk about the 20% tip being an easy standard to me because you just move the decimal point and you double it. And, um, it's easy. Peter, Lizzie's father will also say, You know, I like to round up to the nearest dollar. That's ah favorite.

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Speaker 1: Once you've done that, he doesn't just give you the change rounding up to the nearest dollar. He actually exactly does the math, and then he

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Speaker 2: rounds that up to the nearest. Oftentimes, his tip will drift up just above 20%. And for many people, that is true. And it might start to approach that 25% range, depending on how much you do. And, well, I would shoot for thinking about a 15 to 20% tip is part of my budgeting for going out toe eat a meal. I wouldn't feel social pressure from the people that I'm with to tip much more than that. And I think that you can take some comfort that that, um, tipping is a private and discreet matter. It shouldn't be done in a way that's ostentatious or showy or flashy.

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Speaker 1: I also think that it's okay for you to stand up for your budget.

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Speaker 1: Um, I think you know, I live on a pretty tight budget right now, and it can be frustrating when you do really want to go out and enjoy time with friends and such and such and and you are worried for me For a long time when I wasn't drinking, it was about are we going to split the bill and you've ordered three cocktails and I have none. Um, and I'm gonna have to mention that because I don't have the money to cover you right now. Um, but I also really, really want to say that it's okay for you, and I want you to have the confidence that even if your friends, um, call you out on on putting down a 20% tip that you can say, Hey, that's what I'm comfortable with and that's what I can afford. I worked in the restaurant industry for years, and I often if I am with a bartender or a server, who's a good friend of mine, that is, and it's someone that I really love, and I see a lot in that. In that environment, I will give something like a 50% tip because I really want to show that appreciation. But those are very specific and special circumstances. The fact that your friends are giving this 40% tip on a sort of regular basis, it's overkill, and your it's okay for you to to say no. I'm going to leave 20%. However, we have to go to the side where we don't agree with you quite a much. And that's your 10% tip. It's just not appropriate. The best way to handle it is to actually leave that 15% tip, which is what we consider the bare minimum. These days. Dan often has a wonderful phrase saying that when you enter a restaurant, you do kind of enter a social contract that you are going to pay for the service because you know that the servers who are working there don't get paid a full minimum wage. Um, and so this is the way of balancing it out. If you have poor service, we've said it before on the show, and we will always maintain this. You do not use your money to send that message. Thank you. Instead, what you need to do is, um, on your own, go speak with the manager and just say, Listen, you know, of course I'm going to tip appropriately, but I really was not comfortable with the service that I received this evening, and here's why. And that's the way that you get your message to the server across. Because having worked in the restaurant industry for years, if you leave me a 10% tip, I just think of you as a cheapskate. I do not think of anything that I did as wrong, and that's just how I was. It's how most of my friends in the industry were

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 2: We really hope this helps, and the question about tipping comes up all the time. It's a big one. So good luck and feel confident that you're you're gonna be in good territory. You're gonna be in great shape. Moving forward,

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Speaker 1: this question begins. Lizzie and Dan found the podcast a few weeks ago and love it. I have a question about how to deal with people talking on the phone at the gym. I work out at a college gym and have found that many of the younger students talk on their phones while they work out. This really bothers me. If I'm on the treadmill or bike and the person next to me is on their phone, normally I try to move away, but there are times when it's busy and I can't find another piece of equipment to use. When I've asked them to stop talking. I've gotten dirty looks. What's the best way to handle this. Is this undergraduates just not knowing any better? Or am I being too sensitive? Thank you very much for your help, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Hi,

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Speaker 2: Dave. And thank you for your question. This is a good one. It's a classic with a twist. Um, I was recently on the Today show talking about people using their cell phones at the salon and how your use of your cellphone impacts or effects the person next to you, even if the salon owner keeper as an environment where they're okay with you using the phone, I tell people to really beware of captive audiences when they're talking on their cell phone, that the general rule. The courtesy is that when other people around you can't get away, you wanna be pretty aware of how you're using your phone and what kind of allowances you're giving yourself on that, whether it's the person sitting next to you on the train or the person sit next to in the salon or the person on the next treadmill from you. Having said that, there are, um, different venues where they're different. Cultural expectations are different norms. There's some coffee shops where it's perfectly okay to have your laptop in front of you on the table. And then there's a restaurant right next door that serves a very similar menu that has a very different atmosphere. Ambiance where it would be entirely inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: They might even have a sign up that says, No, no ipads or no tablets, No.

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Speaker 2: And it's a little etiquette, that little sign that really makes the difference. And here I'm going to talk to somebody who's a proprietor manager at the gym. I'm gonna say, What's the policy or people allowed to be on their phones? Here is that, um, environment that you want to create and support or not, And you might choose a gym where that's not the way. Maybe this is a college athletic facility where you don't have a lot of choice about where you're gonna be going and you're gonna have to live with it if it's the way that you don't like. But you can definitely check in with somebody and figure out what the rules are so that you know, once you know what the rules are, it's not necessarily up to you to be the enforcer. In fact, you usually don't have standing to be that person. You wanna look for someone who has that standing, There's gonna be somebody there. There's going to be an employee. And if you've established and you know what the policy is, you can talk to that person and they can ask someone thio to take their conversation somewhere where it's more appropriate.

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Speaker 1: I also want to encourage you that I even if the rules aren't that way, it's I do think if you feel comfortable doing it and we do warn people, this could be a safety issue because you never know what a stranger is going to do in return. So I really wanna caution you before you just say, Well, the Post said I should run out and do this, Um, that that it does come with a big safety warning. Be careful. You don't know who you're dealing with on on the other side of the conversation, but, you know, it is okay to say, Hey, you know, could you lower your voice, please, or it's okay for you to even ask, You know, it would. It would be nice not having to listen to this conversation next to you I just want you to be aware that I can hear everything that you're saying. Um, this is not my normal sing song is sweet, soft, gentle way of saying things that I try to give on the show. Um, this does have a little bit more of an edge to it, and there is a slight reason for that, and that is that. It is. It is frustrating. It's not appropriate of this person to be. We talk about it in in elevators or small spaces that you are literally trapping people into your conversation and their Onley, hearing one side of it, and it's very hard to a. It's a lot easier to ignore a conversation between two people. For instance, if you got two friends who were walking on treadmills, you know next to the treadmill you're using and they're having a conversation,

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Speaker 1: even if it's an inappropriate conversation. If you don't want to hear about the date the girl had the night before, you know, um, it's it's still easier for you to dismiss it because you're hearing both sides of it. That happens a lot when you're on Lee hearing one side, you're often kind of wondering what's coming next. You're just conscious. You pay more attention to it. So I don't have as much of a problem suggesting to you that, you know, hey, asking someone nicely, would you mind keeping your voice down? Or do you think you could maybe change the subject of your conversation? I'm a bit uncomfortable hearing it. And unfortunately, there's no other treadmill for me to use just so that you you have that chance. Thio say, Hey, I'm a part of this environment to, and you are affecting me in it. And if they give the dirty looks, so be it. That's just them. Yeah, being rude and not understanding. And we all encounter those people in the world. Um, but I kind of like to give people a little bit of an encouragement to step up and defend the space that they're in

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Speaker 2: in the spirit of supporting that kind of answer also. And you mentioned it at the end. Don't ever underestimate the power of the reproachful glance sideways. Look, the dirty look came up as a reply to your intrusion on their call.

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Speaker 1: Are we really were suggesting dirty looks and

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Speaker 2: no, and this is again. I don't even wanna put this into a microphone, but I'm gonna go ahead and say

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Speaker 1: it center arm piece dress like when you kind of look at someone like, really just taking a ring.

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Speaker 2: Their awareness

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Speaker 1: as long as it's

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Speaker 2: and and boy, it's a subtle, subtle territory, and you don't wanna be that person who walks around glaring at people all the time who walks around

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Speaker 1: looking down there, judging,

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Speaker 2: risking and shushing and judging. That's that's not what I'm saying. But if if you are socially adept enough, toe with your eyes, bring your attention to something that's going on. Um, sometimes it doesn't even take words coming out of your mouth, and that that might be on the scale of I'm gonna intervene here. Options the least

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Speaker 1: intrusive friend who does something, and it is weird, but it is really funny to me, and I don't I don't love. I'm not suggesting it, but it is just an anecdote. She starts joining in the conversation, and it cracks me up, and it's like it takes a minute or two for the person who's having the conversation to realize what's going on, and then they just kind of give this like, like a groaning look Not even like I'm mad at you. Look, but just like, oh, come on. And but you're like sitting there going to them. Oh, come on. Like I really don't wanna learn the sexual escapades of your night before or the horrible thing your sister said to you. Like or

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Speaker 2: even the grocery list that you're putting together,

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Speaker 1: right? E don't care. You're making me hungry and I'm on a treadmill. Knock it off Anyway, We hope that does give you some options, and we

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Speaker 2: don't think you're being too sensitive. We do not think you being to something that we hear about a lot. It is true. We also hope this

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Speaker 1: helps best of luck to you.

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Speaker 1: You hear that? She says. You're not as rude as you used to be.

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Speaker 1: What do you know?

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone for sending in your questions, you can submit your question to awesome etiquette at Emily post dot com. You can also send them in via Facebook and Twitter. Just use the hashtag awesome etiquette so that we know you want your question on this show.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun as We've been asking for suggestions from people. One of the things we've we've always called this in our script are Ault segment. It's our little alternative segment. Sometimes it's history. Sometimes it's rapid fires. Sometimes it's something else and it's cute. We've gotten to, uh, suggestions for what? To title this segment. Good suggestions. One Dan mentioned in previous show is called Social Studies, which I thought was really cute, and the other one, I'm really attached to its called post script, and I like it because that was actually the name of my father's advertising firm. But I like the play on words, the play on the name, the fact that it comes after our questions. So it's our little PS, which would then make our etiquette salute a PPS. But it just I just really liked it.

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Speaker 2: Could we say that the post grip is a social studies second

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Speaker 1: s social study segment? There you go. So anyway, if any of the rest of you have suggestions on what this might be called, we would we will take them until we kind of find one that we're all down with eso today's alternative segment. Today's postscript. Today's social studies. What do you like? The sound of is actually going to be a couple responses that we've gotten to the show recently, one from my dear father, who was listening to our podcast and made a correction. And he was so right and can't believe he's the only one that cause I know I cannot believe we had no listeners right in about this. So I'm sitting in the airport with him yesterday and he says, Oh, I forgot to mention you need to correct your last rapid fire segment in which you said the fish fork is the only fork place to the right of the place setting. And we're wrong. It's the oyster fork. As soon as you said it, I go. It's the oyster fork. He goes, I know, but you said fish fork. So fish? No, of course not. There's shellfish and they're my favorite. Um, but yeah, it is true. The oyster fork is the only fork place to the right of the place setting. It is not the fish fork. The fish fork is found on the left,

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Speaker 2: and our apologies for all the formal dinner confusion that happened over the last week,

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Speaker 1: a couple. Exactly. And the other is a response to our show with Stephen Petro. And it comes from a gentleman named Rob Rob Rights Hello to Lizzie and Daniel and anyone else who reads the email for awesome etiquette. It is actually just Lizzie and Daniel and most mostly, just me. I I forward you stuff for the most part, but, um, you are, for the time being, just getting directly to the source. I love the show and find you both wonderful hosts. Thank you very much. I'd like to offer an alternative to the writer who wrote in with a question about how to handle comments about finding the right girl at work regularly used the term partner when discussing my significant other. It gives an opportunity to communicate that this gentleman is in a happy relationship. Doesn't have to come out if he doesn't want Thio, and he still isn't lying or just brushing off the comments. Keep up the great work, Rob. So thank you, Rob. We like that Like

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Speaker 2: the word partner,

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Speaker 1: you use it often.

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Speaker 2: I use it all the time, and it's also nice because it doesn't necessarily indicate marital status and people have really significant relationships that aren't always marriages, and it's nice to be able to acknowledge that and have a term that we can use for it.

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Speaker 1: Although I have a feeling that once you get married, you're gonna be so sick

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Speaker 2: to call, put your wife. I I have to hold myself back from saying it already, and I know it's not appropriate, so I don't do it. But no, you're right

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Speaker 1: for anyone out there. Especially you, ladies. Um, Dan Dan is just so glowing. Sweet. Anytime he talks about Project, I have to just say it's It's awesome. Anyway, thank you so much for responding and thanks, Dad, for listening and for correcting us. Even etiquette experts don't get it right all the time, And we certainly hope that we hear from or of you getting suggestions and feedback

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Speaker 2: to previous shows. And I'm hoping we can get Mr Peter Post as a guest on this show at some point in the future because he is turning into, ah, a real, dedicated listener, and we appreciate that

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Speaker 1: I'm saving him for the golf show because he's a golf ball coming out. I know. Anyway, that's our post script. Our social studies are all segment for the day, and we hope it gives you just a little more food for thought s social courtesy does, doesn't it? Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Things are etiquette salute. And I am so curious because Lizzie teased at the start of the show and she very intentionally kept it from your She asked me if I wanted to know, and I said, No, I don't. So, Lizzie, please take us away.

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Speaker 1: I am going to nominate Tom Brady. Oh, and there it goes. That's the reaction I was hoping for. Dancing E bows are quite literally at his airline, and his eyeballs were just the size of basketballs. Um, I'm nominating Tom Brady on my flight home. Thank goodness JetBlue has TVs in every seat, and I was watching NFL live on my way home, and it was Tom Brady holding a press conference about this whole deflated, inflated football scandal that is rocking the playoff season this year. And I was amazed he I don't care where you stand on whether they're cheating, whether it was intentional, whether it wasn't Tom Brady was in that conference, and he that press conference and he absolutely was a gentleman with all of the questions that he got. He held his own. He was pleasant. He never from what I saw, got angry, never got upset. He went 10 minutes beyond what his handler will call them had said, Okay, last question. We're done. He answered questions. Even when the reporters were repeating things, he never said. I already answered that. I'm not gonna answer that again, he said. Well, I did address that previously, and then he reminded them of the answer. It was true, genuine good spokesman ship on his part, and he just he did. He smiled, and he said, You know, there are some things I just don't know and I wish I had answers for you, but I don't. And you know, I have questions myself, and you know, mostly I get out there, I hold the ball. It feels good. I I think that's going to be the ball I'm going to use and short. You know, as as the weather conditions change and as the ball's been spiked for touchdowns, it changes. But you're so used to feeling those changes that you don't notice what happens. He just he held it so well. He held it together so well. And he was such a gentleman. Tom Brady, you have my etiquette salute of the week.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. So that we oftentimes say that how you handle mistakes and how you handle the unfortunate parts of life says as much about you is how you handle your successes. And it sounds like this is a good example of

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Speaker 1: that. Well, wasn't that better? Look at the effect of a little politeness. Okay, well, that's our

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